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TRUTH.

That's one reason why I origionally wanted Obama in office. He can adress these issues witohut being called racist.

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There is so much truth in this statement.

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Indescribable.

2. some european immigrants never "made something" of themselves

3. Some hispanics and blacks make a lot of themselves thanks very much

4. europeans were in power in the US for 250 years and enslaved some natives and blacks. that dont excuse everything but that tells you why some ppl are a bit behind on the social thing.

5. just another Racist Butt...head. what do you know  

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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TRUTH.

That's one reason why I origionally wanted Obama in office. He can adress these issues witohut being called racist.

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The only thing that pisses me off is if they don't speak english because then I have to learn spanish to be able to interact with them .

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And you make it sound like minorites and legal immigrants really have it that well. Better than the illegals, but America's a tough place. There's racists in high places.  

Post edited at 11:05 am on Aug. 22, 2008 by The Artful Dodger

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Not an American, but I completely agree with you.
We have a similar situation (though arguably on a smaller scale) here with the Muslims, except they want us to change our cultural practices to accommodate them.

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We have to learn Spanish, and they don't learn English.

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Its because they have no one to turn to or to learn english from.

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Quote: from nicktodd at 11:53 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

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Well if you were a European at the moment it isn't worth the money travelling here like it was decades ago

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Quote: from breathesrain at 12:03 am on Aug. 22, 2008

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Quote: from mo money17 at 11:49 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

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The only thing that pisses me off is if they don't speak english because then I have to learn spanish to be able to interact with them.

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ummm...selfish much? you know they would have to learn english to talk to YOU...

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The majority of us speak English. America has no specific language, but pretty much anywhere people speak English.

Quote: from breathesrain at 12:04 am on Aug. 22, 2008

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and i have not once seen an example of a mexican immigrant who somehow unfairly takes advantage of US tax dollars. Illegal immigrants end up paying taxes most of the time, anyway, and they don't receive any benefit from that.

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Over 80% of my school gets free/reduced lunch. Back when the immigrants weren't here, I only knew one person that got reduced lunch, and their mom was a drug addict and their dad was attending college. Hell, in 1994, the state of Florida sued the federal government, seeking reimbursement for the $884 million a year the state spends on services to illegal aliens. Florida spent $27.6 million in 1993 to arrest, try and jail illegal immigrants charged with crimes in that state alone.

Also, the proportion of immigrant households using welfare programs is estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be between 30 percent to 50 percent higher than that of US-born citizens. The Carrying Capacity Network, a non-profit group that studies growth and environmental issues, estimated in 1994 that legal and illegal immigrants have cost Florida $3.3 billion since 1970.

Just because you don't see it, or they don't tell you about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Quote: from amanitta at 5:30 am on Aug. 22, 2008

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Quote: from mo money17 at 8:49 am on Aug. 22, 2008

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The only thing that pisses me off is if they don't speak english because then I have to learn spanish to be able to interact with them .

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& the only thing that pisses me off is that American always want other to learn their language and hate to learn a new foreign language ; feel like ashamed of learning RAGS , poor languages!    
why wouldn't you  consider yourself as a loser  who's unable to learn one+ language ?

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It's not that we don't want to learn another language, it's that we don't want to do it just to accommodate the illegals.

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And there are plenty of LEGAL mexican immigrants. Why dont you learn THEIR language?


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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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American always want other to learn their language and hate to learn a new foreign language

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If you have an accent they think you stupid.

If they go to other countries they speak english and expect everyone else to understand and speak it and if the ppl from other countries dont speak english they look down at them like they retard and backwards.

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Quote: from kidd rune at 1:51 pm on Aug. 22, 2008

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It's not that we don't want to learn another language, it's that we don't want to do it just to accommodate the illegals.

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so why dont you learn French? Or are they illegal too? Why dont you learn Italian? Oh yeah they illegal too. Why do you even learn English? Some illegals come from England and Ireland.

And there are plenty of LEGAL mexican immigrants. Why dont you learn THEIR language?

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I learned English because it is the UNDERSTOOD language of the USA. How many people do you think immigrate here from France or Italy annually? Not enough to cost the USA BILLIONS, that's for sure. Most of Europe speaks English as a first or second language anyway.

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"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros

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Quote: from amanitta at 5:30 am on Aug. 22, 2008

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American always want other to learn their language and hate to learn a new foreign language

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Not only that but if you speak another language at home they consider you got a problem like its a handicap and something to be ashamed of.  

If you have an accent they think you stupid.  

If they go to other countries they speak english and expect everyone else to understand and speak it and if the ppl from other countries dont speak english they look down at them like they retard and backwards.

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they don't know that Language is power, life and the instrument of culture, the instrument of domination and liberation.  
 

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It's not that we aren't learning Spanish because we don't want to learn ANY language (the same can't be said for everyone, I know this), but they see it as pretty useless.

We shouldn't have to adapt for the immigrants, they should have to adapt for us. They are the aliens in this.

When someone invites you to their house, treat it with respect. Don't put your feet on the tables and treat it like YOUR home.

I, myself, learned other languages. Not because there were people that refused to learn English, but because I find it useful. No, I didn't learn Spanish (which people seem to think, around here, is the only other language to learn).

Before the massive influx of mestizos, learning a second language, even Spanish, was considered a mark of a good, solid American middle-class education,much like it is in Europe. But with such a rise in mestizos, learning Spanish is now held over people like a hammer so the mestizos can assume more power in public life and demand that their language be learned. This creates a backlash and resentment. Learning Spanish is not about broadening your horizons, then, but bending over and taking it up the rear to please the mestizos.

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"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros

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It's not that we aren't learning Spanish because we don't want to learn ANY language (the same can't be said for everyone, I know this), but they see it as pretty useless. .

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1. Its useless to learn arabic when you invade an arabic country.

All you have to do is point a machine gun and say "move over or I shoot your little hajj ass  and I rape your daughter you dirty raghead" and if they dont get it then you kill him and say "hey I warned him!" or "hey I was liberating his ass!"

2. Its useless to learn chinese when you trade with China.

All you gotta say is "don't worry we sell all your goods here and buy for cheap and we look to the other way when you torture and kill and crush freedom"

I mean who cares if Chinese is the most spoken language in the world. We can just hope english will be used forever in all the world just like latin used to be.

3. Its useless to learn Hindi when its the 3rd most spoken language in the world and a lot of the high tech comes  from inventors from India and the industry is booming there.

Better stick our head in the sand and hope that we wont be left in the dust 30 years from now because we couldn't keep up.

4. Its useless to learn spanish when 425 million ppl speak spanish in the world and the population of spanish speaking ppl in North Central and South America is growing 10 times faster than anybody in the english speaking world.

Better to stick it to the "illegals" and pretend the rest of the world dont exist or dont matter.

5. its useless for Americans to learn another language because if they go on being ignorant of other languages they really will be USELESS THEMSELVES.

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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I, myself, learned other languages. Not because there were people that refused to learn English, but because I find it useful. No, I didn't learn Spanish (which people seem to think, around here, is the only other language to learn).

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